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Dudley Dead |
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December 24, 2009 02:38:18pm |
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Re: Bob the rock star - just silly |
A little dime-store ( talk about a dated expression !) psychology . We all need to stoke our egos sometimes, more so if you are on stage . Jerry presence, and his solos were all he needed ! With Pig's departure, and eventually Jerry's retreat , Bob tried to fill the void . Since he didn't solo, in the conventional sort of way, he did it with his, frankly lame, attempts a rock & roll showmanship . Actually these attempts to "reach the crowd" we so lame that they were somewhat endearing, if not unintentionally funny . Sometimes he could be mindboggleing tasteless .
I recall seeing him do "Throwing Stones", in the part what he says "we are on our own", the light went on him and he strikes this corny Christlike, pose . Barf .
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jessandra |
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December 24, 2009 03:05:51pm |
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Re: Bob the rock star - just silly |
I personally disliked "Throwing Up" as we called it. The jam at the end could be pretty good but it was one of my least favourite Bob songs together with Hell in a Bucket and the worst of the worst was - Victim or the Crime. God aweful!
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William Tell |
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December 24, 2009 03:13:32pm |
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Re: Bob the rock star - just silly |
Weren't those Bob video's revealing? I don't want to start another "Bob bashing" thread, but I think it safe to say that there was a "closet rock star" hiding in those short-shorts...nothing wrong with that, and it's only because we think of our boys as "counter culture" with a capital C that we find it so amusing when they reveal something altogether different about themselves...just like Bob being one of those to say "make money off the SBDs, don't give them away free!" it really isn't that odd or inappropriate EXCEPT in the context of what we understood them to be...and that's more on us than them since they clearly didn't (right? I dunno...?) try to "exploit" the laid back hippie sentiment or some such...we just assumed that's what they represented.
Have a great Christmas, Jess; I am so glad you've hung around here with all of us odd balls.
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jessandra |
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December 24, 2009 03:18:13pm |
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Re: Bob the rock star - just silly |
Thanks WT, a Merry Christmas to you too - and thanks for putting up with us newbies that also post some less music orientated silliness!
It's great to have you here and I much appreciate your input.
Ps. I just have to mention - back in the early days when you were actually seeing the Dead I did a skit at grade school (ca. 1973) with the William Tell Overture playing in the background. I was about 8 years old! Had a special interest in that title after I became a deadhead.
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spacedface |
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December 25, 2009 11:07:12pm |
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Re: Bob the rock star - just silly |
I think I was at that Kaiser show.
Bobby also liked to serenade on one knee, which only added to the silliness. Given the seriousness underneath Bucket and Victim -- what did that tiger represent? -- those antics and the Madonna t-shirt had to be a put-on.
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Dudley Dead |
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December 24, 2009 03:30:51pm |
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Re: Bob the rock star - just silly |
Yeah, we called it that also . Now , didn't mind it at first... but it got old . Plus, it usually came after a Jerry Ballad ( usually an emotional l high point of a show ), and you know that not much was going to happen in the show after that song started . Also it was LONG , and the "jam" , more an instrumental part, that they did in it was mostly the same ( like those early versions were the jam is more open, spacey sounding ).
Hell,could be ok , but I actually like Victim, I know many don't . At least it has very little Bobby "rock star" antics in that one !
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high flow |
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December 24, 2009 03:51:00pm |
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Re: Bob the rock star - just silly |
Hi Jess - Thanks for that post. I completely agree. Throwing Stones was, in most cases, a huge post-space letdown.
Yet thousands would sing, "ashes, ashes"....Then NFA(great, now I have to stand here and clap rhythmically until they decide to play another tune). So, the show was essentially over when the first notes of Throwin Stones was played. It then came down to the Encore and they were hit and miss during the Throwin Stones Era.
My favorite encore was Baby Blue. I liked the slower encores. The JBGs or US Blues never thrilled me as encores. I'd take a Black Muddy or Brokedown anyday.
Happy Holidays everybody!
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spacedface |
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December 25, 2009 11:11:28pm |
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Re: Bob the rock star - just silly |
I like Throwing Stones and Jerry's role in it, though the crowd's NFA ending got to be overplayed.
Still they were better than the other "Beautiful Bob" vehicle (once a used car dealer on Market St), Another Saturday Night.
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